How can mathematics reflect human thoughts and help describe reality? Answers to this question will be presented at a public talk in the Museum of Cryptography. The conversation promises to be not a dry scientific monologue, but a lively dialogue where science meets philosophy and everyday experience. At the center of the discussion are two books: "Mathematics for People Who Hate Mathematics: Another Book with Stupid Drawings" by American author and teacher Ben Orlin and "The Language Instinct" by Canadian-American scientist and science popularizer Steven Pinker. The theme of the evening is how natural and mathematical languages intertwine and allow us not only to communicate but also to structure our very picture of the world. The discussion will unfold with the participation of specialists from HSE University: Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences Alexandra Skripchenko and Candidate of Philological Sciences Valery Shulginov. The format promises to be dynamic, with lively exchanges of ideas and unexpected turns.