The conversation about the cosmos here begins not with dry formulas, but with human curiosity. A historian and a geographer will connect myths, early ideas about flights, the language of maps, and earthly logic of conquering the sky. It will result in a rare format where distant worlds become closer, clearer, and unexpectedly related to the everyday view of the world. The cosmos is most often discussed either as a territory of science or as a space of dreams. This lecture connects both perspectives and shows that the path to the stars began long before rockets and orbital stations. At the center of the conversation will be ideas about the sky, born in different eras, early fantasies about flights, and how humans gradually learned to describe the unattainable through the language of history, geography, and culture. The event format is built on a dialogue between two disciplines. Historian Artyom Fuganov will address early dreams of conquering the sky and tell what exactly our ancestors considered related to the cosmos. Geographer Dmitry Martyanov will continue this conversation from another side and show why geography does not stop at the atmosphere, how names for discovered objects appear, and how humans leave their traces even in places that until recently could only be reached in imagination. Thanks to this combination of themes, the conversation becomes lively and multi-layered: it includes both the history of ideas and the logic of cartography, as well as a careful look at the very language of spatial conquest. The uniqueness of the meeting is that it does not require special preparation. For those who love science, it will be interesting to see a familiar topic from a new angle. For those who lean more towards humanitarian knowledge, a clear and engaging entry into the conversation about the cosmos will open through myths, words, names, and cultural images. This approach removes the distance from a topic that many have come to consider too complex or too far removed from everyday life. Instead of a collection of disparate facts, listeners will receive a coherent narrative about how humanity has conquered the sky - from myth and dream to maps, toponyms, and the first real steps beyond Earth.